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![]() ![]() Section 4: President & Congress Subject: Windmills Msg# 1095260
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Here's the article listing the bunch of large California power plants expecting to be closed. Click Here
"After shutting down coal energy, California is shutting down clean natural gas and the last of its emissions-free nuclear!" . . . . "Would someone please explain to the clueless Greens running California that wind and solar are inefficient, - clean-burning natural gas allowed America to slash emissions more than any other nation, - nuclear energy is safe and emissions-free, - and shifting manufacturing from an energy-starved America to an energy-rich China means more emissions, not less?" On the other hand, some articles have indicated California may consider deferring some closures of four gas-fired power plants. Yet some politicians are still backing those closures. I'd bet the public would vote against those closures, preferring to help keep their power more reliable. (except I'm not really a wagering guy). Stay tuned, as this issue develops further. Click Here |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: "California ISO blamed the unexpected loss of a 470-megawatt power plant Saturday evening, as well as the loss of nearly 1,000 megawatts of wind power." In addition, cloud cover over the desert meant solar energy was in short supply. Click Here Problem is intermittency. When wind stops blowing and its cloudy there needs to be 100% of the load's power requirements to be met by traditional sources. And when there's insufficient traditional back ups due to excessive reliance on interruptible sources. the blackouts will occur. And wasn't helped by high demands of a heat wave, recently. Another complicating factor is that base load plants cannot be started in just a few minutes. Takes a while to build up temperatures, and steam to turn the turbines, whether in state or out of state suppliers. Yet the wind and solar can stop in minutes. Also they all have contractual agreements with neighboring utilities to supplement supplies from those additional utilities, (when power sources are available.) And of course, for many years essentially all utilities had been using load shedding agreements with some large customers (some with their own standby units). Also companies would use some voltage reduction techniques. Their final, reluctant step of last resort is rolling black outs A while back I read opinions where some have said at about the levels as low as 10% or perhaps stretching up to 20% from intermittent sources, the avoidance of load shedding or blackouts becomes pretty risky. But the media are pretty good at politicizing the issue. And hardly any sources have publicized the list of California traditional source plants that the state is scheduling to be closed. A significant cause for concern regarding blackouts, is plant closings. |