11/21/2023 3:33:08 PM
Section 6: International
Subject: Satire of Greta Thunberg Msg# 1195374
It seems you've had detailed and good comments to give me all my life and your efforts in this direction have not stopped now, nor have they slowed down! And I am happy to hear your carefully considered thoughts forever, so please continue onward and I will always listen with careful attention to every word.
The only point of potential disagreement we might have is what you say about China and Russia and India delaying until later. I think it is GOOD to delay Net Zero goal, or even to "infinitely delay" such a foolish goal entirely, i.e., to do it never.
Apart from that I hear you and agree completely.
There is too much an attitude of "damn the details, we need this" Well if you damn the details, then you damn the whole country and throw out the baby with the bath water, as the saying goes.
Its the difference between the Ivory Tower and the reality on the ground. All these high brow ideals are nothing if they are either impossible or so difficult that you would completely wreck everyone's lives in trying to attain them.
Philosopher Robert M. Pirsig (author of "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and a second book less frequently read "Lila: An Inquiry into Morals") writes about the destructive force of intellectuals who take into account *only* a few good sounding things, which they think should be striven for in spite of the cost. But wrecking our police force and justice system in the name of protecting some special groups from being being "unfairly targeted" is itself unfair in that it targets the whole society by leaving violent criminals on the streets.
And likewise being unrealistic about goals of "reducing carbon emissions" without any careful consideration about economics or human impact can lead to catastrophe as well.
P.S. You should read Pirsig "Lila: An Inquiry into Morals" because he explains how morality and doing the right thing follow from pure position of objective logic. And he explains why the liberal position is nuts.
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There's been so many critics about the climate "Net Zero" program which was declared an impossible UN program, in numerous reports. Some nations globally have been supporting it. Yet rather few US sources seem to be endorsing this highly questioned program. And perhaps that program's name Net Zero was also causing some confusion. It intended to rely 100% on renewables and require only electric vehicles, etc
In Dec 2021 Biden's executive order required the US government will be a net zero contributor by 2050, by cutting the CO2 emissions from govt operations and purchases, also transitioning to an all-electric fleet of cars and trucks. A few weeks after that announcement, the title Net Zero faded from most public attention, as the inflation issue became dominant. Yet the UN has continued pushing. And in the climate news area, criticisms have been mounting.
Reporting from the UN's 2021 international COP26 -- Big polluting nations like China & Russia are both putting off “net zero” until 2060 -- PLUS -- The leader of India delayed his country’s net-zero goal until an unimaginable 2070.
International transport Ships and and aircraft have been omitted, by many countries, as there are (almost) no non-petro viable propulsion alternatives. More draw-backs are the large amounts of cement and steel needed to build the greenie (so called) necessary power projects. Those greenie projects start off as CO2 burdens from steel and cement expended during construction. And their land and sea extensive areas requirements are huge, as well as their massive waste disposal needs.
Then there’s backup power requirements for when the wind and solar are are absent. At times needing up to 100%, duplicated fossil plants for preventing blackouts.
The greenie requirement for all cars & trucks to be electric would mean that power requirements could be doubling the power demands, at the same time as curtailing fossil plants. That's a plan for producing shortages of power as well as halting transportation -- power blackouts cannot be tolerated. especially coupled with immobility. Havoc, chaos, unimaginable conditions.
Here's several critical reports. Pipe dream & nightmare have been among the descriptions mentioned, as well as impossible.