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9/29/2023 5:48:29 PM

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Section 4: President & Congress
Subject: news media Msg# 1193286

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Doug Hemmick

Joined 11/13/2009

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Mark Freburg (Read)

Joined 4/3/2000

Mark

Not surprisingly we’re on the same page on cheating at the voting booth, on January 6 on Tucker C. and on Biden’s actions.

We’ve probably discussed before, that the DEMS don’t see their election cheating as wrong at all, because they believe they’ve got in their hands on some sort of holy writ of principles which give them an absolute right to disenfranchise voters of the GOP persuasion.

More reasonable heads would say that we ought to have a free and open marketplace of ideas and let nothing be squelched and let no voter be silenced.

Basically, DEMs see many of the US populace as dummies who cannot rule themselves because they don’t have the holy writ.

The over-emphasis on January 6 as a “horrible attempt to overthrow America” is a sheer progapanda stunt designed to further the message about the so-called “dangerous MAGA right wing voters”

As for Trump, they not only want to slow him down by prosection, but they want to smear his name as much as possible and in so doing smear the GOP and its voters at the same time.

The fact that its an unscrupulous activity is underscored by the suppression of Tucker C.

Finally, the raid on Mar A Lago and the speech damning most GOP voters is the ultimate proof of these points.

Biden is the “point man” but I believe there are people pulling the strings behind him who are pushing these actions and propaganda as well. Biden himself is not the entire problem, but only its most visible face...

I agree that the founding fathers would be greatly dismayed.

Doug

For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where:
ONE Do you believe that cheating is a significant factor in presidential elections?

Yes, but not necessarily in vote-counting. That might happen, but more likely in voter registration irregularities.

TWO Do you believe that cheating happens but its too small of a thing to impact the outcome?

No, it could affect the outcome. Has it? I don't know.

THREE Do you believe that cheating can and has affected the outcome of POTUS elections?

Answered above.

FOUR Do you credit the claims by Trump and Giuliani and some others that without cheating Biden would not be sitting in the Oval office right now?

I really don't know. It's defnitely possible.

Now that we've covered that, let's talk January 6. (Didn't I say that this would be fun?)

ONE Did Trump truly break the law so severely that he earned the attention of the subsequent impeachment trial and then later the January 6 committee led by Ms. Cheney?

Not at all.

TWO If we focus on the question of Trump's verbal remark that the 2020 election was "stolen" does that in and of itself constitute a punishable and significant crime?

No.

THREE If we focus on Trump's comments to the crowd regarding what actions they might take, is he punishable for inciting a crowd to violent acts?

I don't believe so.

FOUR Let's forget about Trump and let's forget about the actual events of the date itself. When Tucker Carlson discussed January 6 on his program he strongly suggested that those who entered the halls and offices of the congressmen were not really committing serious crimes at all. Never mind whether Tucker is right or wrong about this, does he have the right to suggest this interpretation on the airwaves?

I think freedom of speech is a human right, so whether he was correct in a legal sense, he certainly had a right to his opinion.

FIVE More on Tucker Carlson. As we know, Tucker was let go by FOX NEWS not too long after the broadcast in which he made the arguments discussed above in FOUR. Is there any connection - however tenuous and indirect - between Tucker's failure to follow the mainstream line about January 6 and the fact that FOX NEWS let him go?

I believe Fox was covering their butt--or at least the woman in charge these day was covering her butt.

Mar a Lago raid and Biden "Evil MAGA" speech

Question ONE: Was the FBI raid on Mar a Lago justified or was itself stretching the law and abusing the rights of Mister Trump?

Probably.

Mister Biden's famous "MAGA is evil" speech - Sept 2022. He didn't just say "Trump is a bad guy" which would not be a surprising comment.. He didn't just say "January 6 protestors are bad guys" which would not be a surprising comment. For all intents and purposes, he was telling us "All those who didn't vote Biden in 2020 are bad people and a threat to the USA."

There was *nothing* in his speech to distinguish a run of the mill person who voted for Trump from members of the group he was calling evil.

Question TWO: Why should we not consider this outrageous when a POTUS labels all those who voted against him as terrorists?

We should. Butt we all know Joe Biden has said all kinds of despicable things. And that was despicable. The Founding Fathers are rolling over in their graves.

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