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Mark and all,
Please forgive me, but Mark and I and others here have been exchanging ideas for awhile, and maybe we can "take the plunge" a bit. Let's talk about what everyone is talking about.... If you think I am asking for too much I will understand. To be totally honest I think this might be fun. It seems to me that lurking behind all this are some crucial issues, and maybe its worth bringing them to light. First the topic of election integrity ONE Do you believe that cheating is a significant factor in presidential elections? TWO Do you believe that cheating happens but its too small of a thing to impact the outcome? THREE Do you believe that cheating can and has affected the outcome of POTUS elections? FOUR Do you credit the claims by Trump and Giuliani and some others that without cheating Biden would not be sitting in the Oval office right now? Now that we've covered that, let's talk January 6. (Didn't I say that this would be fun?) ONE Did Trump truly break the law so severely that he earned the attention of the subsequent impeachment trial and then later the January 6 committee led by Ms. Cheney? TWO If we focus on the question of Trump's verbal remark that the 2020 election was "stolen" does that in and of itself constitute a punishable and significant crime? THREE If we focus on Trump's comments to the crowd regarding what actions they might take, is he punishable for inciting a crowd to violent acts? FOUR Let's forget about Trump and let's forget about the actual events of the date itself. When Tucker Carlson discussed January 6 on his program he strongly suggested that those who entered the halls and offices of the congressmen were not really committing serious crimes at all. Never mind whether Tucker is right or wrong about this, does he have the right to suggest this interpretation on the airwaves? FIVE More on Tucker Carlson. As we know, Tucker was let go by FOX NEWS not too long after the broadcast in which he made the arguments discussed above in FOUR. Is there any connection - however tenuous and indirect - between Tucker's failure to follow the mainstream line about January 6 and the fact that FOX NEWS let him go? Mar a Lago raid and Biden "Evil MAGA" speech Question ONE: Was the FBI raid on Mar a Lago justified or was itself stretching the law and abusing the rights of Mister Trump? Mister Biden's famous "MAGA is evil" speech - Sept 2022. He didn't just say "Trump is a bad guy" which would not be a surprising comment.. He didn't just say "January 6 protestors are bad guys" which would not be a surprising comment. For all intents and purposes, he was telling us "All those who didn't vote Biden in 2020 are bad people and a threat to the USA." There was *nothing* in his speech to distinguish a run of the mill person who voted for Trump from members of the group he was calling evil. Question TWO: Why should we not consider this outrageous when a POTUS labels all those who voted against him as terrorists? Thanks for listening! Yours, Doug |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where:![]() Right now Biden is at a low point in popularity with Dems, and many Dems want to see another Dem run. As the DNC will likely not allow a Dem debate, and since the dates to register to even run are fast approaching in some states, the chance for a Dem to get the blessing to run seems more and more unlikely. If RFK runs as an independent--something I'm not sure he's given any indication he wants to do as he is an old school liberal, he might siphon off enough Dem votes to make your theory work. But if someone else runs as an independent, I revert to my concerns in my first paragraph. They might just siphon off too many votes from the GOP candidate. |