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I believe that constitutional amendments SHOULD require some form of super majority.
The US framers knew the Constitution would have to be amended. They also knew it should never be amended frivolously or haphazardly. National requirements are two thirds of both Houses shall propose Amendments to the US Constitution, or, by the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, calling a Convention, proposing Amendments. THEN not valid until ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof. Pretty significant hurdles. Intentionally tough I don't believe states should go below, for example, 60% super majorities within a state to amend its constitution-- in the legislatures, and from a voters referendum. But 75% would be better. Seems malpractice or at least unwise to go lower than 60%. Can get to be too lax, if otherwise lower. My two cents. Sorry Ohio, but Mark and others are calling you out. |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: Here is an example of how the Democrats operate today. Get used to it. On Tuesday, Ohio voters voted on whether to change the state's constitution. Unlike most states and the federal constitution, which require at least a super majority, and usually legislative action, Ohio's state constitution requires a simple, 50+% majority, and a vote by the people. Nothing more than changing the drinking age or something else equally innocuous. Democrats enlisted the assistance of deep pocket, out-of-state donors, thinking they could get some changes in Ohio that they had been unable to enact via legislation, the two most important to them being abortion (dramatic laws that would allow killing babies nearly up to the point of birth) and draconian gun control (laws which would only impact legal gun owners, and not criminals). Republicans believed that a simple majority (in Ohio, just the few big cities would be able to make up a simple majority) should not be able to rewrite the constitution. The issue on the ballot, if passed, would allow residents of every county to have a say (instead of just half, represented by our big cities) and would require 60% of voters to approve (instead of 50% plus 1) before making any change to the Ohio Constitution. Democrats doubled down and flooded mailboxes--several times--with large post cards claiming this issue on the ballot would kill Democracy in Ohio, complete with images of the U.S. Constituton being torn in half, and lines like "democracy means one vote--if this issue passes, one vote would no longer count," etc. Lies for the simpletons, who the Dems counted on to believe that changing the constitution is the same as voting for the local board of supervisors, where it is, and should be, one vote. We voted yeterday, and lost to the Democrats. Our big cities (Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, plus Dayton and Toledo) won the day--the issue failed--by about 55 to 35, last numbers I saw. The Dems plan to do an end around past the legislature, and past the Ohio supreme Court, which has shot down currently illegal laws passed by all these cities in the past. This is not my imagination. Some of the mayors are on record as saying they would do just that if the issue failed. And each of these cities has previously failed with the state legislature, the state supreme court, or both. The worst thing I saw? A Democrat from the state legislature on the news issued a statement thanking voters for not caving in to out of state money which would have ruined democracy in Ohio. What a load of horse puckey--exactly what the Democrats did to the state yesterday. If they do this in Ohio, they will do this everywhere, my friends. Soros, Bloommberg, etc., still have lots of money to spend on Democrats who will print mailers that will lie to the people when they want your vote. |