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![]() ![]() Section 4: President & Congress Subject: Hottest summer--CHALLENGED Msg# 1190834
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Seems the warmist advocates are again caught lying about "hottest", based on a dubious observation of a waterway in Florida.
One report debunking that warmist claim was titled: Weather Expert Pielke Jr. rips Wash Post claim of hottest ‘world record’ ocean temp Click Here Here's some of the fallacies behind that series of lying warmist reports: < It's not a world record. < It’s not even the highest at that Florida weather station in the past 6 years. < At the reported 101 F degrees, its shy of a 'hot tub' ocean temperature they've put into some headlines. < There's no “boiling seas” due to climate change. < Did they forget that the boiling point of water is 100º Celsius, BUT it is actually 212º on the Fahrenheit scale. Incredible error. < And its not part of the global seas or oceans < the Florida weather station measurement is part of a shallow inland bay called Manatee bay, not the Atlantic Ocean. < The Manatee Bay is designated as part of the Everglades National Park. < Similar to the local land pattern of Ocean City, Manatee Bay is sheltered from the Atlantic by Key Largo. < The shallow water and location near the mainland, produces wide temperature fluctuations as measured by this buoy-mounted weather station < The record for the Manatee Bay site is 102 degrees, set on Aug. 15, 2017. (See red circle, buoy location) Click Here Stories citing this as evidence that the world seas are hitting "hottest temps" or are "boiling" are wrong. They're all wet.
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: Here's two reports about evidence of palm trees growing in the Arctic and in Alaska millions of years ago A 2009 report describes finding palm tree pollen within the Arctic circle. The Arctic would have looked very similar to the vegetation we now see in Florida. The science implies that coldest month mean temperatures over the Arctic land masses were no less than 8 Celsius” (46.40F) A 2015 report describes a fossil of a palm tree frond (leaf) discovered in Alaska. Its estimated to be from the Jurassic era from 145 to 200 million yrs ago. U.S. Forest Service geologist Jim Baichtal said: "the earth was around 14 degrees Celsius (around 25 degrees Fahrenheit) higher than average 1960s temperatures, he said. In this case, the climate was so warm that there were palm trees in very far north latitudes. Both are evidence that current temperatures are much cooler than earlier times in history. 2023 is NOT the hottest summer in history. Palm leaf fossil: |